threegeesus iPhone followup: time to rework the home screen

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No offense, but this is like someone who eats at McDonald's every day asking them to sell lower calorie foods. How about not installing every application there is, and instead limiting yourself to the ones you actually use? I mean, seriously, if you've got five pages of apps, just get a cellular card and carry a notebook. Apple originally said "only web apps" (which offer a somewhat convenient work-around). Bloggers whined: "we want native apps!" So Apple announces the SDK. Now it's "we want an updated home screen." If they were to alter the home screen you'd just be asking for something else down the road. I think the line has been drawn. You're free to install whatever you like, but if you lack the ability to control yourself, well, it's a you problem.
No offense, but this is like someone who eats at McDonald's every day asking them to sell lower calorie foods

Fair enough, but I think the metaphor I'd prefer might be slightly different. In this case, the whole concept of "McDonalds" and "fast food" just got invented for the first time, and sure, I went a little overboard on downloading freebies to see what it was like.

But I'm also thinking of a point not so far from now when something derived from the iPhone is likely to be Apple's dominant platform, and we're all likely to want to do more with it than we can now.

It obviously isn't a straight comparison, but I'll go with it anyway: The desktop version of OSX ships with around 50 items under the /Applications folder, not including any third party items installed by the owner. This works, because the Finder offers good tools for managing a lot of items, but it wasn't always this way. The iPhone OS is still on a scale roughly equivalent to pre-MultiFinder days in the Mac OS, where the system only ships with a handful of apps and can only do one thing at a time. If nothing else, Moore's law suggests that the iPhone is going to grow beyond these contraints within a few years, and hopefully the interface will grow beyond as well.
I'm not usually one to comment on a post I haven't fully read, so please excuse me: at least I'm up-front about it...you're a bit too long-winded for me.

Anyhow, part of the reason I haven't fully read your post is because I see in your screen-shots that you've got no less than five language-reference apps on your iPhone at any given time. That denotes a problem (unless you're really fanatical about having reference books with you wherever you go).

Apple has done a good job of making a UI that's inherently simple. Over-complicate it, and it may be indicative of a non-UI problem if you get what I mean. iTunes gives you very simple tools to turn on/off the applications for each sync cycle, and even failing that, you can re-download any app you want from AppStore on demand (apps that don't have your cultivated personal high-scores and settings, of course, but still).
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Chris Devers, you are famous! Saw you on Tuaw, loved the article. My sentiments exactly! Hope you and the fam are doing well.

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I have to agree with Chris here.
Well, not to burst your bubble but I don't think it's entirely Apple's fault here. While I might see the use you might have with all those programs on your iPhone, do you truly think that the average user would use that many applications? While I agree that there should be workarounds provides, preferably by third-party developers (ala Categories from the jailbroken Installer.app, perhaps?), I don't see why Apple is at fault here. It's like Microsoft selling someone a Windows PC and that same person complaining to Microsoft because he's installed so many programs on it that it is too difficult to navigate. Third-party applications are of no obligation to Apple, and while it would be nice to have something to better sort out of our applications, I don't see why Apple should be the victim or the one to blame here. It's a nice suggestion to give, but not an excuse to blame them.

~Alexius
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There no lines drawn: some of us do like getting as many cool apps as we can get our hands on. What would be the reason for having such a variety of 3rd-party apps when we shall restrain ourselves? After all, if I like I can use all of available disk space for different applications. Chris is making a good point: before it becomes a problem, there has to be a GUI solution for it. Whether we like it or not, it will be a problem for many.
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Palm had a working solution with tabbed and scrollable screens.

I basically had two or three working tabs (arrange so no scrolling was necessary) and everything else on one or two 'archive' tab, scrolling for it when needed.

You could move apps by dragging the icon to the chosen tab (you could then arrange their order within each tab).

The basic shortcut buttons on the bottom had been changed to my own usage patterns.

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